Comments on: Episode 50: Tab-Topped Text Frames http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames information. instruction. insight. Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:29:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Olaf http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1675 Olaf Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:21:23 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1675 Can't imagine anyone really cares much, but just in case someone else has to do what I've had to do, here's how I did it. I put a one row, one column table in the first line(s) of the text frame. It is wider than the text frame and sticks out the side. I put the title in the table, then set up a rule under (or above--I forget which) with rounded ends. It'sthick enough and positioned properly to cover the top stroke of the text frame, and it's close enough to the shape of the rounded corner that it looks alright. I may tweak it more to get it exact, but I'll have to see it printed to know if it's necessary. Here's a jpg: http://www.chinooktype.com/storybox-title_solution1.jpg The only problems now are: If the title is longer than the width of the text frame, the frame's stroke is above the white text. When that happens, I'll use the pen tool and/or scissors tool to cut and/or reshape that part of the stroke. Not a big deal. That's shown in the jpg. And, if there are 2 line titles, I'll have to recreate my style with rules under and above the title, plus an underline in between them. I'll try to get the author to shorten all the titles to one line if possible. Olaf Can’t imagine anyone really cares much, but just in case someone else has to do what I’ve had to do, here’s how I did it.

I put a one row, one column table in the first line(s) of the text frame. It is wider than the text frame and sticks out the side. I put the title in the table, then set up a rule under (or above–I forget which) with rounded ends. It’sthick enough and positioned properly to cover the top stroke of the text frame, and it’s close enough to the shape of the rounded corner that it looks alright. I may tweak it more to get it exact, but I’ll have to see it printed to know if it’s necessary.
Here’s a jpg:
http://www.chinooktype.com/storybox-title_solution1.jpg

The only problems now are:
If the title is longer than the width of the text frame, the frame’s stroke is above the white text. When that happens, I’ll use the pen tool and/or scissors tool to cut and/or reshape that part of the stroke. Not a big deal. That’s shown in the jpg.

And, if there are 2 line titles, I’ll have to recreate my style with rules under and above the title, plus an underline in between them. I’ll try to get the author to shorten all the titles to one line if possible.

Olaf

]]> By: Olaf http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1673 Olaf Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:40:21 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1673 Excellent stuff. I had an immediate use for this technique, so it's much appreciated. But I also have a question: what if you want to do something similar, but the with tab sticking out of the side of the frame? I'm working on a book right now that does something sort of like that, though not exactly. Here's a jpg showing what I need to do. http://www.chinooktype.com/storybox-title_possible_or_not.jpg Right now it's two frames--one filled black with white type, one with a black stroke, both with rounded corners. Is there a way to use underline and/or paragraph rules and/or a table to get the title bar down into the same frame as the text AND have it stick out the side? I haven't had time to play with it much yet, so I apologize if it's something simple. Thanks, Olaf Excellent stuff. I had an immediate use for this technique, so it’s much appreciated.

But I also have a question: what if you want to do something similar, but the with tab sticking out of the side of the frame?
I’m working on a book right now that does something sort of like that, though not exactly.

Here’s a jpg showing what I need to do.
http://www.chinooktype.com/storybox-title_possible_or_not.jpg

Right now it’s two frames–one filled black with white type, one with a black stroke, both with rounded corners.

Is there a way to use underline and/or paragraph rules and/or a table to get the title bar down into the same frame as the text AND have it stick out the side? I haven’t had time to play with it much yet, so I apologize if it’s something simple.
Thanks,
Olaf

]]> By: Lukas http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1050 Lukas Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:24:28 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1050 The stacked boxes isn't bad, as that would also give the shadows correct, just remember that if you have a shadow all the tabs, except the top tab will rasterize. To indent a tab use the left indent. The stacked boxes isn’t bad, as that would also give the shadows correct, just remember that if you have a shadow all the tabs, except the top tab will rasterize.
To indent a tab use the left indent.

]]> By: Michael Murphy http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1029 Michael Murphy Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:00:25 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1029 Ed -- Thanks for the feedback. I knew someone would <em>eventually</em> get around to asking about multiple tabs. Unfortunately, this is a one-shot deal: one pair of Paragraph Rules per paragraph, and one first baseline per frame. You could always stack a series of these style frames over one another, but that's about it. Ed — Thanks for the feedback. I knew someone would eventually get around to asking about multiple tabs. Unfortunately, this is a one-shot deal: one pair of Paragraph Rules per paragraph, and one first baseline per frame. You could always stack a series of these style frames over one another, but that’s about it.

]]> By: Ed http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1028 Ed Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:09:28 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1028 What a great technique and your presentation is so fresh. Thanks! Has anyone inquired about creating a multiple tabbed text box? Would it even be possible with this technique? I've been thinking it through and I doubt it but if anyone has an idea please share. Thanks again, Ed What a great technique and your presentation is so fresh. Thanks! Has anyone inquired about creating a multiple tabbed text box? Would it even be possible with this technique? I’ve been thinking it through and I doubt it but if anyone has an idea please share.
Thanks again,
Ed

]]> By: Kat http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1016 Kat Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:20:28 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1016 A colleague told me about your podcasts on Tuesday, and I have been camped out at my computer watching all of the epsiodes since! I had only asked him to recommend a book that I can reference for ID features I don't know so well. I was about to embark on a new magazine design and wanted it to flow flawlessly, save me time, etc. I didn't think it would be possible to learn what I needed to know quickly or in a fun way. But once I watched your most current espisode - #50, I suddenly decided I had better find out everything so I can approach the magazine smartly. I learned more in that one episode than I have in my past year of clicking around & learning for myself. You are a time saver and I like how you show some examples in reverse - how they are used first, and working back from there to show the setup & why. Brilliant. Now I am determined to influence my old-school exboss to get on the train & learn how to do things your way, the way ID is meant to be used... A colleague told me about your podcasts on Tuesday, and I have been camped out at my computer watching all of the epsiodes since! I had only asked him to recommend a book that I can reference for ID features I don’t know so well. I was about to embark on a new magazine design and wanted it to flow flawlessly, save me time, etc. I didn’t think it would be possible to learn what I needed to know quickly or in a fun way. But once I watched your most current espisode – #50, I suddenly decided I had better find out everything so I can approach the magazine smartly. I learned more in that one episode than I have in my past year of clicking around & learning for myself. You are a time saver and I like how you show some examples in reverse – how they are used first, and working back from there to show the setup & why. Brilliant. Now I am determined to influence my old-school exboss to get on the train & learn how to do things your way, the way ID is meant to be used…

]]> By: Lukas http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1010 Lukas Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:48:49 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1010 I will be bold again Michael. Baseline grids. This is a subject I often stumble accross because it is so powerfull that it confuses everyone ;P… seriously though, I understand many know want to use them but are unable to, and although the wish list for podcasts may be long I wanted to just doubble check that baseline gridds were on the menu. I will be bold again Michael. Baseline grids. This is a subject I often stumble accross because it is so powerfull that it confuses everyone ;P… seriously though, I understand many know want to use them but are unable to, and although the wish list for podcasts may be long I wanted to just doubble check that baseline gridds were on the menu.

]]> By: Regan Shepherd http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-1000 Regan Shepherd Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:55:49 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-1000 Hey Your podcasts rock! Not sure if you done a post on this but I wondering if you outline all of your tips for speeding up the performance of InDesign CS3. eg Display Settings, turning of page thumbnails that kind of thing. Thanks Heaps! Kind regards, Regan Hey

Your podcasts rock!

Not sure if you done a post on this but I wondering if you outline all of your tips for speeding up the performance of InDesign CS3.

eg Display Settings, turning of page thumbnails that kind of thing.

Thanks Heaps!

Kind regards,

Regan

]]> By: Lukas http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-999 Lukas Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:06:06 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-999 Don't mean to hogg the post but searched for a way to edit the stoke and found a little fun… :) (by the way my comment about the podcast being redundant wasn't serious… but had no way to edit it… a moderator is welcome to merge my comments ;) ) http://kaceycrouch.com/2007/04/06/easter-egg-hunt-indesign-style/ Don’t mean to hogg the post but searched for a way to edit the stoke and found a little fun… :) (by the way my comment about the podcast being redundant wasn’t serious… but had no way to edit it… a moderator is welcome to merge my comments ;) )

http://kaceycrouch.com/2007/04/06/easter-egg-hunt-indesign-style/

]]> By: Lukas http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames/comment-page-1#comment-998 Lukas Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:51:00 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-50-tab-topped-text-frames#comment-998 opps, I wrote my comment without reaading all the others, I wasn't the only one with that reaction. Sorry that it became a nagg. On the other hand, If you had rounded corners on the original text frame, you could not set insets to different values, and would have to do a baseline shift on the text block text, instead. Then just because there are so many experts I want to ask how can one create all those other styles, waves haches and diamonds? I'm sure there should be some way (maybe in next InDesign) to make a tab the same way that the wave is made, (but then this podcast would be redundant :( ) opps, I wrote my comment without reaading all the others, I wasn’t the only one with that reaction. Sorry that it became a nagg.
On the other hand, If you had rounded corners on the original text frame, you could not set insets to different values, and would have to do a baseline shift on the text block text, instead.
Then just because there are so many experts I want to ask how can one create all those other styles, waves haches and diamonds? I’m sure there should be some way (maybe in next InDesign) to make a tab the same way that the wave is made, (but then this podcast would be redundant :( )

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