Comments on: Episode 49: Paragraph Rules Rule! http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule information. instruction. insight. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:54:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Michael Murphy http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1250 Michael Murphy Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:03:51 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1250 Fantastic, Fred! Hey...We're all in this together and everybody wins if we're all willing to help one another out. Thanks for sharing the story. Fantastic, Fred! Hey…We’re all in this together and everybody wins if we’re all willing to help one another out. Thanks for sharing the story.

]]> By: Fred http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1247 Fred Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:51 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1247 Michael, I was asked today how to make something and remembered back to this episode. I remembered enough to pull off the paragraph style and looked a little smart in the process! I shamelessly took all the credit! Thanks for the great work...and for making the rest of us look good! Best regards, Fred Michael,

I was asked today how to make something and remembered back to this episode. I remembered enough to pull off the paragraph style and looked a little smart in the process! I shamelessly took all the credit! Thanks for the great work…and for making the rest of us look good!

Best regards,
Fred

]]> By: Michael Murphy http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1072 Michael Murphy Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:23:05 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1072 The recent episodes have been produced using a Mac-only application called ScreenFlow by Vara software. The recent episodes have been produced using a Mac-only application called ScreenFlow by Vara software.

]]> By: Jay Fresno http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1069 Jay Fresno Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:46:19 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1069 Michael, May I ask which new software that you used to create the presentation? Michael,
May I ask which new software that you used to create the presentation?

]]> By: Max http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1061 Max Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:06:21 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1061 Hi Michael, Yesterday I tried your tutorial, It goes very fast and I loved the way to put it into a paragraph style... Quite easy if you want to use it in many place and you do not have to reposition on every time. The only problem I got (with rounded rectangle) if I export it into pdf, (i didn't try pdf/x1-a, but high quality press) the round doesn't have any antialiasing. The way i fixed it was to export in eps and then import the eps into indesign to rexeport in pdf. Then it works fine, but is there a simpler way? Hi Michael,

Yesterday I tried your tutorial, It goes very fast and I loved the way to put it into a paragraph style… Quite easy if you want to use it in many place and you do not have to reposition on every time. The only problem I got (with rounded rectangle) if I export it into pdf, (i didn’t try pdf/x1-a, but high quality press) the round doesn’t have any antialiasing. The way i fixed it was to export in eps and then import the eps into indesign to rexeport in pdf. Then it works fine, but is there a simpler way?

]]> By: Michael Murphy http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1054 Michael Murphy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:28:47 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1054 Tom -- E-mail me your file and I'll take a look. There's no other way for me to figure out your specific problem. Tom –
E-mail me your file and I’ll take a look. There’s no other way for me to figure out your specific problem.

]]> By: Tom http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1053 Tom Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:03:47 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1053 hey, me again. was waiting for a reply to my question, got a bit disappointed. but then I actually took the time to read your latest post - about the accident. now I feel like a complete idiot. all the best to you and your friend. Tom hey,
me again. was waiting for a reply to my question, got a bit disappointed. but then I actually took the time to read your latest post - about the accident. now I feel like a complete idiot.

all the best to you and your friend.
Tom

]]> By: Tom http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1007 Tom Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:38:56 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-1007 hey Michael, I'm huge fan of your show. keep up the good work! Episodes 49 and 50 were just excellent. however, the last of your rule examples (boxed rule & underline combo) I just can't seem to replicate. It looks alright, when I open your work file. but even if I copy the style, the "line above" always comes out on top of the "underlining" rendering it all pitch black. What am I missing here? Thanks again for your show. your piece on nested styles has become a lifesaver. best regards Tom (from Germany) hey Michael,
I’m huge fan of your show. keep up the good work!
Episodes 49 and 50 were just excellent. however, the last of your rule examples (boxed rule & underline combo) I just can’t seem to replicate. It looks alright, when I open your work file. but even if I copy the style, the “line above” always comes out on top of the “underlining” rendering it all pitch black. What am I missing here?

Thanks again for your show. your piece on nested styles has become a lifesaver.

best regards
Tom (from Germany)

]]> By: Michael Murphy http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-947 Michael Murphy Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:56:56 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-947 Lasso -- I tested out your problem and the same thing happened on my end. Here's what it boils down to: since all break characters are "end of paragraph" characters, the <strong>\r</strong> metacharacter matches <em>all</em> break characters (line, column, frame, page and standard carriage return). This happens with both Text and GREP searches. While you can <em>specifically</em> search for any of those break characters using its unique metacharacter (<strong>~R</strong> for Page Break, for example), the <strong>\r</strong> can't distinguish between any specific break type. My recommended workaround for your particular problem is to first do a search for the page break character (<strong>~R</strong>) and use Find/Change to insert something unique like a bullet character (or even some text like <strong>PAGEBREAK</strong> that couldn't possibly appear anywhere else in your text) in front of it. Then, do a second find change for all of the double returns using the <strong>\r\r</strong> method. The page break characters won't be matched because they're preceded by the unique text you put in. Once all of the double returns have been removed, do one more search to remove the unique character or text you put in before the page breaks. It's not perfect, but it's the only way around the problem. Lasso –

I tested out your problem and the same thing happened on my end. Here’s what it boils down to: since all break characters are “end of paragraph” characters, the \r metacharacter matches all break characters (line, column, frame, page and standard carriage return). This happens with both Text and GREP searches. While you can specifically search for any of those break characters using its unique metacharacter (~R for Page Break, for example), the \r can’t distinguish between any specific break type.

My recommended workaround for your particular problem is to first do a search for the page break character (~R) and use Find/Change to insert something unique like a bullet character (or even some text like PAGEBREAK that couldn’t possibly appear anywhere else in your text) in front of it. Then, do a second find change for all of the double returns using the \r\r method. The page break characters won’t be matched because they’re preceded by the unique text you put in. Once all of the double returns have been removed, do one more search to remove the unique character or text you put in before the page breaks.

It’s not perfect, but it’s the only way around the problem.

]]> By: lasso http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-944 lasso Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:49:16 +0000 http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule#comment-944 Michael, great episode - i love it when the fundamentals are so versatile. I have a question re a problem i have been experiencing and i'm not sure if it is my software or whether i'm missing the obvious. One of my clients supplied me with text for a book i am laying out for them. They were kind enough to supply me with a MS Word file including page breaks but also had double paragraph breaks to separate paragraphs. These i had to reduce to single para breaks. I used find and replace GREP - find'\r\r' replace with '\r'. Unfortunately this removed the page breaks (~R) as well? Do you know why this could be? Michael, great episode - i love it when the fundamentals are so versatile. I have a question re a problem i have been experiencing and i’m not sure if it is my software or whether i’m missing the obvious. One of my clients supplied me with text for a book i am laying out for them. They were kind enough to supply me with a MS Word file including page breaks but also had double paragraph breaks to separate paragraphs. These i had to reduce to single para breaks. I used find and replace GREP - find’\r\r’ replace with ‘\r’. Unfortunately this removed the page breaks (~R) as well? Do you know why this could be?

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