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	<title>Comments on: Episode 49: Paragraph Rules Rule!</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re confusing paragraph rules with underlines. A paragraph rule can be set at the top of the paragraph or at the bottom of a paragraph (its first and last lines only), and nowhere in-between. The rule borders the paragraph, not each line in the paragraph. To get everything to appear with line under it, regardless of how many lines are in the paragraph, you need to build underlining into the style instead. Bear in mind, though, that the options for Underlining are fewer than those for Paragraph Rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re confusing paragraph rules with underlines. A paragraph rule can be set at the top of the paragraph or at the bottom of a paragraph (its first and last lines only), and nowhere in-between. The rule borders the paragraph, not each line in the paragraph. To get everything to appear with line under it, regardless of how many lines are in the paragraph, you need to build underlining into the style instead. Bear in mind, though, that the options for Underlining are fewer than those for Paragraph Rules.</p>
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		<title>By: leosrob</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1832</link>
		<dc:creator>leosrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Michael!
I love your site! I have not seen everything, but I&#039;m excited to see.
And i&#039;m not a professional &quot;indesigner&quot;...
So... I&#039;d like to ask you something.
I&#039;m trying to make a paragraph style for titles.
I&#039;m having problems when the title has more than 2 lines. The rule did not follow, for example, four lines, only two were underlined.
I tried a number of combinations in weight, offset, leading, yet only two lines were underlined.
The rule does this or if I have to use another paragraph style. I hope you can answer me that!
And another question: Can i customize the stroke of the rule?

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Michael!<br />
I love your site! I have not seen everything, but I&#8217;m excited to see.<br />
And i&#8217;m not a professional &#8220;indesigner&#8221;&#8230;<br />
So&#8230; I&#8217;d like to ask you something.<br />
I&#8217;m trying to make a paragraph style for titles.<br />
I&#8217;m having problems when the title has more than 2 lines. The rule did not follow, for example, four lines, only two were underlined.<br />
I tried a number of combinations in weight, offset, leading, yet only two lines were underlined.<br />
The rule does this or if I have to use another paragraph style. I hope you can answer me that!<br />
And another question: Can i customize the stroke of the rule?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: marbed</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>marbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

Thank you so much for all the tips you give in your podcasts..! I Love’em!! :-)

I was particurlarly impressed with the one on paragraph rules, and the box effect really caught my attention. In a situation somewhat similar to Rasmus’s, I was wondering if there is any way to achieve the box effect on 1 or more words in a paragraph, to have only a boxed word or boxed words... I’ve tried a fiew things like a table cell (doesn’t work), custom underline combined with strikethrough (no sucess...)

Any clue would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Marbed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for all the tips you give in your podcasts..! I Love’em!! <img src='http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was particurlarly impressed with the one on paragraph rules, and the box effect really caught my attention. In a situation somewhat similar to Rasmus’s, I was wondering if there is any way to achieve the box effect on 1 or more words in a paragraph, to have only a boxed word or boxed words&#8230; I’ve tried a fiew things like a table cell (doesn’t work), custom underline combined with strikethrough (no sucess&#8230;)</p>
<p>Any clue would be greatly appreciated!</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Marbed</p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

Let me start off by saying how much I appreciate your excellent podcasts. It really makes InDesign easier to understand and more fun to use!

I am making picture captions for this magazine I am working on and wanted the &quot;Simple padded rule&quot; as explained in the podcast, and found that you in fact CAN span this multiple lines, by hitting return after each line. 

I also got the &quot;Rounded Rule&quot; working for multiple lines by simply having all the parameters in either Rule Above or Rule Below.

http://i39.tinypic.com/73jsy1.jpg

Can&#039;t wait for the next podcast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Let me start off by saying how much I appreciate your excellent podcasts. It really makes InDesign easier to understand and more fun to use!</p>
<p>I am making picture captions for this magazine I am working on and wanted the &#8220;Simple padded rule&#8221; as explained in the podcast, and found that you in fact CAN span this multiple lines, by hitting return after each line. </p>
<p>I also got the &#8220;Rounded Rule&#8221; working for multiple lines by simply having all the parameters in either Rule Above or Rule Below.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://i39.tinypic.com/73jsy1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i39.tinypic.com/73jsy1.jpg</a></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the next podcast!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rasmus --

Unfortunately, there&#039;s no way to create a vertical paragraph rule without using a table cell with a rule on one side, as you mention, or some other form of complicated workaround. You might try downloading &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.typefi.com/TypefiAutoFit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Typefi&#039;s AutoFit&lt;/A&gt; plug-in and take advantage of its relational features between objects. The problem there is that it would require that the text to be &quot;ruled&quot; apply in different frames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasmus &#8211;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there&#8217;s no way to create a vertical paragraph rule without using a table cell with a rule on one side, as you mention, or some other form of complicated workaround. You might try downloading <a rel="nofollow" HREF="http://www.typefi.com/TypefiAutoFit" rel="nofollow">Typefi&#8217;s AutoFit</a> plug-in and take advantage of its relational features between objects. The problem there is that it would require that the text to be &#8220;ruled&#8221; apply in different frames.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasmus</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

This is a fantastic site! I am not new to Adobe, but rather inexperienced in inDesign, and these tips on rules are great... I will definetely watch the rest of your video-casts.

...but I was wondering if there is a way to create &quot;side rules&quot; in paragraph styles - I use vertical lines a lot for quoting and other stuff (like the ones that appear when forwarding en email).

Usually I would have to create a new text field or a table, but I really like the flow of just switching style! So I have been experimenting with the rules and have been able to create the illusion of a side rule by nudging the left and right indents of a heavy rule towards each other until it is only a few pt wide. However, this means that I will have to know the number of lines this will apply to (some flexibility can be achieved by setting both a top and bottom rule) or change the thickness of the rule every time. This is actually a better option for me than frames or tables, but I would still like to have full flexibility.

Am I missing some fundamental feature of inDesign, or is this not as easy as it maybe should be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>This is a fantastic site! I am not new to Adobe, but rather inexperienced in inDesign, and these tips on rules are great&#8230; I will definetely watch the rest of your video-casts.</p>
<p>&#8230;but I was wondering if there is a way to create &#8220;side rules&#8221; in paragraph styles &#8211; I use vertical lines a lot for quoting and other stuff (like the ones that appear when forwarding en email).</p>
<p>Usually I would have to create a new text field or a table, but I really like the flow of just switching style! So I have been experimenting with the rules and have been able to create the illusion of a side rule by nudging the left and right indents of a heavy rule towards each other until it is only a few pt wide. However, this means that I will have to know the number of lines this will apply to (some flexibility can be achieved by setting both a top and bottom rule) or change the thickness of the rule every time. This is actually a better option for me than frames or tables, but I would still like to have full flexibility.</p>
<p>Am I missing some fundamental feature of inDesign, or is this not as easy as it maybe should be?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic, Fred! Hey...We&#039;re all in this together and everybody wins if we&#039;re all willing to help one another out. Thanks for sharing the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, Fred! Hey&#8230;We&#8217;re all in this together and everybody wins if we&#8217;re all willing to help one another out. Thanks for sharing the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I was asked today how to make something and remembered back to this episode. I remembered enough to pull off the paragraph style and looked a little smart in the process! I shamelessly took all the credit! Thanks for the great work...and for making the rest of us look good!

Best regards,
Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I was asked today how to make something and remembered back to this episode. I remembered enough to pull off the paragraph style and looked a little smart in the process! I shamelessly took all the credit! Thanks for the great work&#8230;and for making the rest of us look good!</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recent episodes have been produced using a Mac-only application called ScreenFlow by Vara software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent episodes have been produced using a Mac-only application called ScreenFlow by Vara software.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fresno</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/episode-49-paragraph-rules-rule/comment-page-1#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fresno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, 
May I ask which new software that you used to create the presentation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
May I ask which new software that you used to create the presentation?</p>
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