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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ammar Midani</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Ammar Midani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-1252</guid>
		<description>They said Adobe fixed it. 
http://photoshoptechniques.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26955&#38;highlight=indesign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They said Adobe fixed it.<br />
<a href="http://photoshoptechniques.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26955&amp;highlight=indesign" rel="nofollow">http://photoshoptechniques.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26955&amp;highlight=indesign</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-981</guid>
		<description>I'd like to be certified, but I'm also wondering what the point is. How are people using their certification after all the effort? To get better jobs? To prove you're qualified to teach? To show Dad you didn't waste his college money? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to be certified, but I&#8217;m also wondering what the point is. How are people using their certification after all the effort? To get better jobs? To prove you&#8217;re qualified to teach? To show Dad you didn&#8217;t waste his college money? <img src='http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-930</guid>
		<description>Robbie --

The answer to this question -- which I get asked a lot -- is better suited to a full blog post than a comment. Look for that in a couple of days. I can only answer based on my own experience, but I think that's worth sharing with everyone who's seeking certification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie &#8211;</p>
<p>The answer to this question &#8212; which I get asked a lot &#8212; is better suited to a full blog post than a comment. Look for that in a couple of days. I can only answer based on my own experience, but I think that&#8217;s worth sharing with everyone who&#8217;s seeking certification.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie L. Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie L. Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-929</guid>
		<description>I am very interested in obtaining my Adobe Certification in InDesign CS3. Are there any practice exams that you would recommend to prepare for this certification. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested in obtaining my Adobe Certification in InDesign CS3. Are there any practice exams that you would recommend to prepare for this certification. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Suraci</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Suraci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-658</guid>
		<description>Just for laughs, I have suggestion for an ACE-like test question: 

How many yellow lights can be seen on the Friendly Alien's spacecraft?
a. 8
b. 9 
c. 9, while pressing the Shift key
d. 8 lights and 1 yellow anti-gravity flux capacitor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for laughs, I have suggestion for an ACE-like test question: </p>
<p>How many yellow lights can be seen on the Friendly Alien&#8217;s spacecraft?<br />
a. 8<br />
b. 9<br />
c. 9, while pressing the Shift key<br />
d. 8 lights and 1 yellow anti-gravity flux capacitor</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Suraci</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Suraci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-654</guid>
		<description>Michael- Ya know, that seems like a valid point. I have to say that was exactly the kind of insightful response I needed to make me put down my weapons and smile. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael- Ya know, that seems like a valid point. I have to say that was exactly the kind of insightful response I needed to make me put down my weapons and smile. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-640</guid>
		<description>As cynical as I know I can be, Chris, I'm not quite &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; cynical. I think if anyone who was just plain good in the application could pass this test, the "expert" certification would be diluted and mean far less. I don't think the test costs are excessive (and I've paid twice...once to fail and once to pass), or are really making Adobe much money in the big picture. And seeing as they are &lt;a href="http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-cs3-certification-exam-news.php" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;giving people full credit to re-test for free&lt;/a&gt; based on the problems with the first version of the test, this particular problem sounds like an embarrassing blunder, not a deliberate strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As cynical as I know I can be, Chris, I&#8217;m not quite <em>that</em> cynical. I think if anyone who was just plain good in the application could pass this test, the &#8220;expert&#8221; certification would be diluted and mean far less. I don&#8217;t think the test costs are excessive (and I&#8217;ve paid twice&#8230;once to fail and once to pass), or are really making Adobe much money in the big picture. And seeing as they are <a href="http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-cs3-certification-exam-news.php" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow">giving people full credit to re-test for free</a> based on the problems with the first version of the test, this particular problem sounds like an embarrassing blunder, not a deliberate strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-638</guid>
		<description>It seems as with some other types of certification tests that the questions are moving along this line because the producers know people will pay to retake the test if they fail.

It's a great way to make easy money for Adobe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as with some other types of certification tests that the questions are moving along this line because the producers know people will pay to retake the test if they fail.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great way to make easy money for Adobe.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-626</guid>
		<description>Joe -- I don't disagree with you in principle on any of what you've said. I was already doing my podcast for several months when I took my first certification and I failed it. Even when I passed the second attempt (and the re-certification recently), it wasn't a test I'd hang up on the refrigerator with pride.

I think the test proves more about your ability to pass the test than it does in InDesign, but I will say this: I have noticed over time as I get asked more and more questions about the application, that I can trace back my ability to answer those questions to things I learned when studying the User Guide for the exam. So there's some benefit there, or at least there has been for me. I still think the tests are fundamentally flawed, but I wouldn't say they're entirely without some merit or value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8212; I don&#8217;t disagree with you in principle on any of what you&#8217;ve said. I was already doing my podcast for several months when I took my first certification and I failed it. Even when I passed the second attempt (and the re-certification recently), it wasn&#8217;t a test I&#8217;d hang up on the refrigerator with pride.</p>
<p>I think the test proves more about your ability to pass the test than it does in InDesign, but I will say this: I have noticed over time as I get asked more and more questions about the application, that I can trace back my ability to answer those questions to things I learned when studying the User Guide for the exam. So there&#8217;s some benefit there, or at least there has been for me. I still think the tests are fundamentally flawed, but I wouldn&#8217;t say they&#8217;re entirely without some merit or value.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Suraci</title>
		<link>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Suraci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.theindesigner.com/blog/cs3-certified#comment-625</guid>
		<description>Hi all. I've just finished reading the 69 posts on the IDSecrets page and the 21 here. Between this page and that one, I am terrified to waste the money on the cert despite the revision. I am a teacher/designer and strongly disagree with Adobe's method of assessment. Semantic games alone do not produce a VALID test. I have read the practice questions and three letters come to mind on some questions, WTF! I have been using ID for years, though I knew the back and sides of it, but to my dismay I realize what makes me an EXPERT is my ability to MEMORIZE the Help file? What? How can you sit and read a help file word for word (btw, if anyone has a link to a printable version t'would be appreciated, lol). I believe expertise should be measured by one's ability to PROBLEM SOLVE (translation for people at Adobe: problem solve= find a solution to a specific problem) any potential "real-life" scenario in the software, and not to be required to memorize what every side note states in a help file. Absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all. I&#8217;ve just finished reading the 69 posts on the IDSecrets page and the 21 here. Between this page and that one, I am terrified to waste the money on the cert despite the revision. I am a teacher/designer and strongly disagree with Adobe&#8217;s method of assessment. Semantic games alone do not produce a VALID test. I have read the practice questions and three letters come to mind on some questions, WTF! I have been using ID for years, though I knew the back and sides of it, but to my dismay I realize what makes me an EXPERT is my ability to MEMORIZE the Help file? What? How can you sit and read a help file word for word (btw, if anyone has a link to a printable version t&#8217;would be appreciated, lol). I believe expertise should be measured by one&#8217;s ability to PROBLEM SOLVE (translation for people at Adobe: problem solve= find a solution to a specific problem) any potential &#8220;real-life&#8221; scenario in the software, and not to be required to memorize what every side note states in a help file. Absurd.</p>
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